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NANDRODEX 300 10ml 300mg. (Sciroxx)
Nandrodex
300
Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone
Decanoate) is actually the brand name for Organonīs version of the
compound Nandrolone Decanoate. This is a 19-Nor compound (some would say that it
is the 19-nor compound), and as such, it shares basically the same
characteristics with all of them. One thing unique to Deca, above nearly all
steroids, is the mystique it has had for the last quarter of a century. On a
personal level, Iīve included Deca in cycles at doses ranging from 100mgs/week
to 2,000mgs per week. Suffice to say, I have my fair share of experience with
this compound. This drug was regarded very highly by Dan Duchaine in his
Underground Steroid Handbooks as well as many of his later writings. For many,
this was and is the final word on Deca. Letīs delve into some of the reasons
that Decaīs mystique may be well deserved.
First of all, Deca (and
Nandrolone in general) doesnīt produce many estrogenic or androgenic side
effects. This is because Deca has a very low rate of aromatization (conversion
to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme), roughly equal to 20% the rate of
Testosterone.
Also, Iīve read many places that Deca stores water in
connective tissue, thus alleviating joint pain. I have no idea what "storing
water in the joints" means. I have no idea how to really quantify that
statement, or where it started. However, in one study of postmenapusal women,
Deca impoved collagen synthesis (1), and in another study deca increased bone
mineral content. (2)Both of these studies used VERY low doses, which were far
too low to promote muscle growth. In my estimation, based on these 2 studies, an
athlete attempting to use Deca only for these two effects (increasing bone
mineral content and collagen synthesis) should be using 100mgs of deca every
week. Thatīs actually a higher dose than those two studies used successfully.
Even at ― of this dose, in HIV+ patients who have experienced significant
wasting, a 100mg/E2W (every 2 weeks) injection of Deca resulted in a
"significant increase in weight" (5). Iīd never recommend that low of a dose for
an athlete, but itīs evidence of Decaīs strong anabolic properties. Deca is a
very nice anabolic, causing nice (albeit slow) gains in quality muscle. This
could be due to its moderately strong binding to the Androgen Receptor, or its
many positive non-Androgen-Receptor mediated effects. One such effect is
nitrogen retention, which is a major factor in muscle growth and lean mass
gains; in one study, with low-doses (65 mg/week) and high-doses of Deca (200
mg/week), both low-doses and high-doses resulted in significant nitrogen
retention (33-52 g nitrogen/14 days, representing gains of 0.5 to 0.9 kg lean
tissue/week), and body weight increased by 4.9 +/- 1.2 kg, including 3.1 +/- 0.5
kg lean body mass, and treadmill exercise performance (cardiovascular fitness)
also improved (7). Need I say that the higher doses in this study produced more
gains? Steroid.com members who have posted their results with deca confirm this
in many posts and threads, with their average reccomendation being to take
400-600mgs/week for muscle gain. I have to agree.
Deca also has a very
long active life. We can see from the chart below that a 100mg shot Deca
(represented by the circles) produced relatively active and stable plasma
nandrolone levels until day almost 10, hence once a week shots are all thatīs
necessary for stable levels of nandrolond decanoate (as a side note, the
nandrolone phenylpropionate used in this study was active, and only experienced
a severe drop off around day 5, shooting NPP every 4th day is the way to go).
Youīll also note that higher blood plasma levels of Nandrolone are found with
Gluteal injections as opposed to Deltoid injections (this is true for all
oil-based steroids, I suspect).
In another study of HIV+ men (6) we can
see that deca ( 200mgs on week 1, 400 on week 2 and 600mgs for weeks 3-12)
caused NO negative side effects in total or LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, or
insulin sensitivity and there was a reduction of HDL cholesterol(8-10 points) in
both groups. Also, in most studies with HIV+ subjects, deca also improved immune
function.
So what do we know so far about this compound? So far, we know
that Deca is a very safe drug for long term use, will help with joint problems,
could improve immune function, and is highly (!) anabolic, and not very
androgenic.
Thatīs the good news (and thereīs a lot of it), now for the
bad news:
Deca is known for producing quality weight gains, but it has
to be used for 12 weeks at a minimum, judging from Steroid.com membersī
feedback, as well as my own personal experience. This shouldnīt cause any
problems, since it is a very mild drug in terms of side-effects.
Deca Durabolin Side Effects
Many members of Steroid.com also complain
of water-retention with this drug, and again, Iīm inclined to agree. Letrozole
seems to be a preferred choice to combat this, and itīs my favorite for this
use. This water retention would seem to make Deca more suitable for bulking
rather than cutting, although it can be successfully used for either.
Now for the worst news: Deca is a progestin (as are all nandrolones),
unfortunately; it happens to stimulate the progesterone receptor 20% as well as
progesterone itself (3), and this opens the door for many possible unwanted side
effects (water retention, acne, etc...). It must be noted that most of those are
rare, though. This also may be the major reason that Deca is such a suppressive
drug when it comes to your natural testosterone levels. We can see from the
chart below that a simgle measly 100mg injection of Deca caused a total (100%)
reduction of natural testosterone levels, and it took roughly a month to return
those testosterone levels to baseline! All from 100mgs of Deca!
The
moral of this story? Always use Testosterone with your Deca! I suggest 200mgs,
minimum, to avoid impotence and sexual dysfunction. For an anabolic effect from
that Testosterone, I recommend at least double that, with an equal amount of
deca (minimum). Iīd also recommend taking an anti-progesteronic drug with deca
(or at least having it on hand): Cabergoline and Bromocriptine are both good
choices.
Deca Durabolin Cycle
So where are we? Well, Iīd be comfortable
recommending Deca for use in a bulking cycle at up to 600mgs/week for an
extended duration (12-16 weeks), or up to 400mgs/week in a cutting cycle (again,
for 12-16 weeks), as long as something to combat water retention is present.
Whichever purpose you decide to use Deca for, you still need to include
Testosterone in your cycle and have some anti-progesteronic drugs on hand (see
paragraph above), just in case.
Post Cycle Therapy (PCT), though beyond
the scope of this profile, needs to be commented on. Due to the highly
suppressive nature of Deca, I will speculate that testosterone in a
deca-inclusive cycle needs to be run for at least 2 additional weeks upon
cessation of Deca. We remember from the chart above that baseline testosterone
levels took roughly a month to return. Hence, a nice long estered testosterone
should be run about 2 weeks longer than deca, to prevent having a lag in time
when the deca is not producing an anabolic effect, yet is still suppressing your
natural testosterone levels. Iīd also suggest that a particularly aggressive PCT
be run after your cycle; nolvadex, HCG, and perhaps clomid should all be
utilized in an effort to restore your natural hormone levels as quickly and
efficiently as possible.
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